A Note Black Gender Relations in 2011

After writing that post on Nate Dogg, I spoke to Rob and  learned that there is an entire dating blogosphere were men, Black and White, blog about their relationships. I always KNEW these blogs existed but I didn’t know that they existed across race and I didn’t know how popular they were.

The second thing that he mentioned is that in DC there is a concentration of what I will term men who fall under the Ugly Ducklings doctrine, cats for what ever reason or not, didn’t get play in college, high school or both or they are new to city living.  Now they are working, got that government gig, a personal trainer and for arguably a range of reasons they treat  many of the women that they interact with like they are expendable and replaceable. Which makes my ass itch, because I am a human being, you are a human being and why and the hell are you coming at me like that….Lol.

For instance, a boo snack (peace to @huny, @jonubian) I have been seeing since January has recently gotten into the habit  of calling me late after he has marinated all through out the city on Saturdays. Now I told this negro man, on spring forward Saturday, be honest, be human, express your desire and we will take it from there. You calling or texting me at God awful hours, is just disrespectful. I know him to be a kind, considerate and an analytical dude, so I thought we were good. For instance he knows me well enough to know that decent week night date me is bier, a ball game and Chinese food. I mentioned the beef with the late calls again this past Thursday. And I #swearfoJesus I woke up Monday morning with a 12am missed call.

I was done. Like I have #toldyoass what not to do, and you gone do it anyways. Ummhmm.

#Blackgirlsarefromthefuture.

I am a choice not an option.

As a writer I have to have tunnel vision. The downside to that is that I sometimes don’t see the possibilities of other perspectives. In having this conversation with Rob, I was able to see that I had been making the assumption that if Black peoples material needs had been met, then the ways in which we treated each other would improve. Why in the same hell I would think that, I don’t know. Wait, I do, my family fell apart when I was 8 when my dad lost his union job, so according to my own experience, stable employment meant, or arguably provided the conditions for an all good household and decent gender relations.

This is only partly true. Because I also know some people who have serenity no matter whats in their pocket. My daddy is one of them. But on Sunday when I was processing this I hadn’t gotten there, yet.

I think this all came to ahead because the last few days have been the first time that I have had a chance since work school started back in January for me to reflect. Normally I am on the work hustle, grading papers, reading four books, emailing students, calling my family, going on a date,  praying, paying the rent grind, talking to my sisters. In short, there is very little time to reflect.

Rob also asked me a couple other questions that got the anthropologist in me thinking. I swear I do not know another man who can question my thinking, I mean poke holes in my ideas, but not come across like he is trying to dominate or belittle. He is a light, in some ways, for this reason. So he asked me when I was talking about Black gender relations, well what are my White girlfriends dating experiences like. I said I only know about their experiences in Black spaces.  And then he asked do working class and low income Black folks relate to each other differently? I then began to think, wait, maybe I can talk to an older Black woman, who can tell me about how gender relations were in DC in say the 50’s or 60’s. Rob then responded that, during that time period, men and women got married earlier and far more often.
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It was then that I realized that we are at a rare historical moment, not only in terms of electoral politics, and youth driven social movements in Egypt, Iran, along with  labor movements in Wisconsin. We are also in a historical moment in terms of Black gender relations.

So boom. I got clarity today talking to @Afrolicious. And she asked me why I was sad. And I said, well, the constant negotiations that both my work and social life take is wearing on me. It’s cool, because I don’t have resentments, but its challenging because its work. I also said that it bugs me out that some of the  Black people in DMV who are arguably some of the most well off in the history of Black people in this country have such janky gender relationships.

She listened.

I listened.

And while I was listening to her I had an epiphany. I realized that the material needs, having your food, clothes and shelter met are important, BUT, a person who is going to treat a woman, a Lover, a lady friend like a human being is going to do so regardless of whether these things are taken care of, if their spiritual needs are being met.

Its an issue of spirit. Not the material world. Not about jobs, or Ugly Duckling doctrines or degrees. But about realizing that the people that you interact with are spirits and deserve your respect or for you to respect them enough to leave them alone.

Peace to my little sister who has her heart broke right now. Little bear you will emerge stronger. Trust. With each break up I became closer to becoming byrd Girl.  I Love you.

Have you assumed that if people had more cake, they would treat each other better?

Where are the women in the blogosphere writing about this? Why don’t we do it more?

Speaking of gender relations. I will be speaking on on panel, “Happily Every After”, Saturday March 26th at the Red Tent Symposium for Women.  Join us.

Comments

  1. arieswym says

    Why are we are in a historical moment in terms of Black gender relations? or what about now makes it a historical moment in terms of Black gender relations?

  2. Renina says

    This is a particular moment because of :
    Post Civil Rights for Black Folks
    Post Industrial for the City
    Post Crack Epidemic in the city

    Statistically, more women, in undergrad and arguably grad school are both attending and graduating from school which affects, dating, marital patterns and child rearing life courses. School delays all these things because school + family rearing are both labor.

    Was that responsive? Rob may have something to add on this as well.

  3. jlie says

    Don’t forget that most movements were male movements.
    I think this is a time for Black Women Rising, and whenever women rise, the world gets brighter.

  4. msdailey says

    Its an issue of spirit. Not the material world. Not about jobs, or Ugly Duckling doctrines or degrees. But about realizing that the people that you interact with are spirits and deserve your respect or for you to respect them enough to leave them alone.

    I like that ^^ and I get it!!

    Great topic!

  5. jlie says

    Hi Renina –
    What movement hasn’t been a male movement? Civil Rights and on. It’s men’s faces, men’s names who lead the movements all the way up to leading the nation.
    Even the feminist stuff is about the men, wanting to be equal with men. It’s still not about women yet. And I’m one of the crazies that feel this world would be so much better if women had a bigger slice of the cake. Women hold up half the sky, ykno? Did I answer your question? (and sry for my bad manners, I realized that I should have introduced myself before entering my 2cents. ^_^ I’ve been lurking for a while, you cover great topics, and I felt bad that I wasn’t even honoring your comments request. Thank you, lady.)

  6. Renina says

    Hi Jlie,

    Haha. I got you out of lurking.

    You are absolutely right in that power has been constructed to be based on who we see in political offices, on television, leading marches.

    There are representatives of official power (institutional heads, talking heads) and then there are the people on the ground who do the day to day work. In Black institutions these people are Black women.

    However, women in general Black women in particular have historically been the engine of social movements in this country. Licking envelops, making phone calls, organizing bus pick up schedules- work that women have done to keep organizations humming along.

    Think about how Black churches are full of Black women who RUN them, but the OfficeMax leaders tend to be Black men.

    There are a few books out that analyze womens contributions to The Civil Rights Movement and the Black Power Movement:
    At the Dark End of the Street by Danielle McGuire
    http://amzn.to/igzWN8

    Righteous Discontent: Black Women and The Black Church.
    http://amzn.to/hUIt8I

    Words of Fire: Anthology of African American Feminist Thought
    http://amzn.to/emczzG

    Enjoy.

    -R

  7. jlie says

    Thanks for the book recommendations, Renina. I’m always out for more to read. Checking my library now.

  8. Renina says

    You’re welcome. I Love sharing the books that I have read for class. I was floored when I learned all the different ways in which Black women, since the 19th century, shooot, since after slavery been organizing themselves.

    It gives me hope!

    Let me know what you find.