F-ck Them Critics Jay, We Still Believe

When I saw the reaction at Parlour stating that Jay
Electronica
needed an intervention after his show in
NYC last week
I was like “What kinda facts are those?”
According to that logic, when Jay Electronica f*cks
up a show, he needs an Erykah intervention. So, what

if his show was brilliant? Should they then get married?

How about we let the man hone his craft?

After I read that post I reminded Rafi of OH Word of the Living
with Baduizm post (by Sasha) that made my @ss itch.

Here is how the conversation went down.
me: dude. Jay and E.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Rafi: lol
i’m on my way out the door
3:11 PM me: k.
Rafi: the jay electronica saga is funny
me: hahaha
I KNOOOOW.
I always think about the post you did on
Baduizm…’bout to tie it back to the Vixens
Rafi: unless he literally appeared at the gates
to Jerusalem and welcomed us all to the
promised land
me: hahaha
Rafi: unless he did that how would he have
lived up to the hype?
me: I know.


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A couple of weeks ago, Madlib asked Kevin Nottingham to remove
the sample set posted on his blog. Ivan @ HHIR speaks on the
issue saying,

Our ol’ pal Kevin Nottingham of This Is Hip Hop hit me up today regarding a message he received by none other than Madlib. The message was written in response to Kevin’s recent release of his (totally awesome) ‘Madvillain – Madvillainy’ sample set. Simply put: Madlib wanted the set to be taken down from Kev’s site, download link and all. Kevin politely obliged.

Now here’s the question and matter at hand (which Kevin asked his readers as well): Is the act of compiling samples used on albums harmful to Hip-Hop? Our (Kev and I) reasoning and motivation is, quite simply, that we’re just trying to learn about the artform (of sampling in particular) and spread it forth for everyone who shares our interests in this great music, culture and lifestyle we call Hip-Hop. Personally, I get a rush seeking out samples from some of my favorite emcees. But Madlib’s response to this was the following: “Pages like this on the internet are no help at all to people like Doom, Madlib, and those that work with them.”

Essentially, Kevin and I are simply collecting the information and music, and compiling them into one enveloped and enjoyable package for y’all to dig in to and have fun with.

Here is the thing. While Ivan and crew has good intentions,
Madlib
does have point. Dooms, Libs and Count Bass D’s
music are sample intense.
Label awareness of their usage
of said samples could severely impact their ability
make
music without having to pay for egregious sample clearances.

This is an issue that has been present in Hip Hop since
the Biz Markie affair. I would like to make another distinction
for Ivan. There is a difference between
between downloading
searching out, finding and downloading a couple of original
songs that serve as the source material for our favorite
hip hip songs. It is something completely different to
have site to go to where the entire sample set.

A substantial barrier has been removed.

The entire DNA of the album has been revealed and them
in the crates cats hate that sh-t.

While the action of posting was done out of reverence,
artists are sensitive people who don’t like
folks knowing
what goes into the albums secret sauce.

Ahhhhh, the hairy issues of sample clearances.

Madlib may argue that posting the sample sets increases the
likelihood of sample related lawsuits. My question is doesn’t the
risk of lawsuit come with the territory? That that is something
risk that he takes just by putting out the music?

Feel like I am back in Copyright.

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Who is in the right here? Madlib? Ivan?

Why these cats hella pressed with Jay? Can
he live? Show me a loudmouth critic and I will show
you a bitter artist.

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