I had two law school best friends.
One was a Muslim lady, from Staten Island, whose family was from Pakistan.
The other was a white dude, DJ, from Memphis,? a Libertarian who stayed wanting to sue the government. His name is Jake Bear (JB).
I got on with the libertarians because we were intellectual minorities in our academic environment. They had a critique of the government, and they tended to be really bright. And the liked me because I listened to their arguments rather than simply dissing them outright.
I fell out with JB at the end of my second year because he didn’t believe in Negro programs, which have been dismantled by the Olin Foundation and Ward Connerly over the last 10 years on the grounds that they are unconstitutional. By negro programs I mean the ones? that I have been participating in since I was 11 years old. Programs intended to expose low income high achieving and/or underrepresented youth to prep school, college, summer enrichment programs, careers, etc.
I got along with JB because of his stance on the Drug War and other policies that had materially adverse affects on people of color. He was also cute like in a Wolverine kinda way and he knew Dilla beats.
A central tenet of Libertarian thinking is that the government has no say so in the policies of private business. Libertarians are also exTREMELY deferential to states rights. EXTREMELY.
Absurd, right. Well.
Which is what Rand Paul was getting at on the Rachel Maddow show @2:00.
Much of the fear around Rand is his open association and identification with the Tea Party Movement. Which I get. However my read of that is that these folks can elect members to senate and the congress than those of us who are more radical on the left may want to consider doing the same.
LUKE, use the force. #luls.
You ask, Renina, how is this connected to dope boys? Well.
Boom.
I was talking to my brother, dig dug, reformed dope boy, married father of several little bears, who enjoys going to PTA meetings and school events in his cement and paint stained work clothes, gold fronts and corn rows. #yerp.
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Here is the rub.
Dig dug was willing to do the jail time, and NOT snitch.
This was absurd to me. Why would I want to do a stint because someone else jacked someone. I thought it was idiotic.
Dig dug’s explanation was that, he could not snitch, because he had to go back and LIVE in the hood in East Oakland, where known snitches disappear.
It is irrational and absurd, yet it is true.
While his rationale was obscured to ME, it made sense, when he put it like that.
Every social system has its rules, including dope boys, street cats and Libertarians.
While they may seem absurd on its face, when we think about the social contexts and rules, things may begin to make sense.
Peace to Gramsci and Common Sense. #ummhmm.
More on Rand Paul, President Obama, the free Market and political economy, here. Via @rafikam. Its worth your time.
Why is it so hard to accept the rules the govern other peoples worlds?
What does it mean that tea partiers are electing folks now?
Is it particularly significant?
Do you buy my dope boys and libertarians connection?
john says
No! I don’t buy it. But I think the rules on either side are just as backward. But it seems as the general population are willing to accept it so these rules are carried out. Both are hurting us as a population and one more so as a culture. There have been and are too many black men willing to end their lives literally or figuratively(going to jail). It’s sad and angering all in the same emotion that somewhere in our fabric as a people we have allowed ignorance and submoral ideals to govern us. How can you rise above oppression from another race if you continually suppress/oppress yourself. The poor blacks refuse to adopt a new moral code for themselves. They are content on identifying and branding themselves with the very things that lead to their very demise. And the same thing is seen her with your brother. The very neighborhood he came from would rather he an innocent man go to jail to face the atraucities that it is then the actuall crimminal. (to vere off) And people wonder why when black men get rich they move out of the hood and some never come back. Why when the environment is meant for you to thrive or even have a peace of mind. I have more but I think I went on a rant.
john says
I meant to say isn’t meant for you to thrive.
john says
Hey admin I have a question how do you feel about gay rappers? Or bi-sexual rappers who are openly bi-sexual!
admin says
Hi John….
Rappers sexualities are none of my business, so Long as they aren’t out giving anyone the bug (HIV, Herpes…etc.)
~r
john says
But why is the other ideas and ideals your business? Shouldn’t this also be something that should be spoken about I agree….no I don’t agree even if they arent giving someone an std I think the truth is the truth regardless. Case in point with politians and other public figures who put out images that are false and hurtful to the general public. Not saying that a gay rapper would be hurtful to the public but the fact that you are portraying something your not, may ultimately hurt you more than anything else.
MZ says
@john
How can you rise above oppression from another race if you continually suppress/oppress yourself. The poor blacks refuse to adopt a new moral code for themselves.
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you gotta play the hand your dealt & you can’t change the rules if everyone else isn’t willing to go along with the rule change. which in a way is backwards, but it’s reality.
So yeah, I can see your connection M. I also think that it hard to accept rules that govern other people’s worlds is because the rigid nature of rules. we’ve all got our own set we’ve come to follow & anything other than that is foreign.
admin says
Hi John,
Not saying that a gay rapper would be hurtful to the public but the fact that you are portraying something your not, may ultimately hurt you more than anything else.
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What can we DO so that “Gay rappers” can be more comfortable being honest with us and themselves?
john says
@admin! That last question is a good one! I don’t know to be honest. I saw this video on bossip and it had some gay rappers and a singer on it and I was in shock. Not in shock like i’ve never seen anything like this, but the fact that you have men openly being affectionate towards each other and saying that they can do this and that to you better than a woman, just doesnt sit right with me. And I get the concept of letting people be happy and I to some degree agree with that.But man as a straight male I don’t understand it! I can’t phathom having the same emotions I have with my wife or towards other women be that way towards someone of my sex. I think some of the world is ready for a gay rapper to be open and be on top of the rap game and honestly if the some dont have anything to do with loving another man or being intimate I may listen to it but if so I can’t support you.
Renina says
Hi John,
Glad you liked the question. I started writing you a long response, then I said, uh, lets get to the point.
Seeing Black men OPENLY desire each other is radical in a culture that normalizes and presumes Black men murdering each other.
What is so threatening about Gay Black men? Oh. You may want to read this post too, which explores the aforementioned question.
Tyler Perry X Morehouse X Real Black Men.
http://newmodelminority.com/2009/10/23/tyler-perry-x-morehouse-x-real-black-men/
Heterosexual Black men don’t even OPENLY desire women in rap songs, but for us being big booty bitches to screw. Luls. Thats not desire, thats domination.
Not in shock like i?ve never seen anything like this, but the fact that you have men openly being affectionate towards each other and saying that they can do this and that to you better than a woman, just doesnt sit right with me
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It doesn’t HAVE to sit right with you, everyone has a right to be who they are.
You know whats interesting, white folks have spoken the same way about Black men with White women. #ummhmm.
And I get the concept of letting people be happy and I to some degree agree with that.But man as a straight male I don?t understand it!
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Thank you for your honesty here. I really appreciate it. I will be teaching in the fall, and it means a lot that I can go here online with you, because I am going to have to do it in the classroom.
I think some of the world is ready for a gay rapper to be open and be on top of the rap game and honestly if the some dont have anything to do with loving another man or being intimate I may listen to it but if so I can?t support you.
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Trust me. You have already supported a “gay rapper” or a rapper who has sex with men. Meaning, many folks are GLBTQ but are not out.
I have enjoyed this conversation and I appreciate your willingness to go there with me. Talking about sex/sexuality scares people, at least I am learning. #ummhmm.
~Renina