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		<title>Tyler Perry x Morehouse x Real Black Men</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking to my homie Jonzey the other night, I was trying to convince her to go see Good Hair, she refused. I said you must go to seeSharpton&#8217;s clear disdain for and anger towards Black womenand our budgetary practices around our hair. She mentioned that she wasn&#8217;t going for precisely that reason. That she isnot [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_18hntX52WPQ/SuG8IGAoxHI/AAAAAAAABpA/5M6wylhRGQ4/s1600-h/madea_goes_to_jail.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 210px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_18hntX52WPQ/SuG8IGAoxHI/AAAAAAAABpA/5M6wylhRGQ4/s320/madea_goes_to_jail.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5395800675804824690" border="0" /></a><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">Speaking to my homie Jonzey the other night, I was trying to convince</span> <span style="font-family:arial;"><br />her to go see <span style="font-style: italic;">Good Hair</span>, she refused.</span><span style="font-family:arial;">  </span><span style="font-family:arial;">I said you must go to see<br />Sharpton&#8217;s clear  disdain for and anger towards Black </span> <span style="font-family:arial;">women<br />and  our budgetary practices around our hair.</p>
<p>She mentioned</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:arial;">that she wasn&#8217;t going for precisely that reason. That she is<br />not interested</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:arial;">in seeing something where Black women get trashed.<br />I was silent because I have been there, in fact I live there.</p>
<p></span><span style="font-family:arial;">She is a filmmaker and she said that she is tired of other  filmmakers projecting<br />their issues onto</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:arial;">Black people and Black women, Tyler Perry specifically.<br />Here is the line </span> <span style="font-family:arial;">that got me,</span><br />
<blockquote style="font-family: arial;">&#8220;If Tyler Perry is more comfortable walking  around wearing dresses then<br />he should make a movie about THAT, instead of projecting his shit onto us.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-family:arial;">She believes that White filmmakers project their issues on to Black people<br />and Black male filmmakers project their issues onto Black women.</p>
<p>I had one of those blog synergy moments  and asked her, well have you</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:arial;">seen<br />what has happened at Moreouse this week with regard  to their dress </span> <span style="font-family:arial;">code?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ajc.com/news/morehouse-dress-code-seeks-164132.html">Morehouse </a>announced a dress code this week that was pretty much<br />no do rags, no sagging,  then the last rule,states no pumps, no dresses,<br />no tunics.</p>
<p>I instantly thought of Tyler Perry and how Morehouse&#8217;s reaction to<br />how some men dress, as evidence of why he won&#8217;t make<span style="font-style: italic;"> that</span> movie.</p>
<p>Simply stated, Tyler Perry will not make that movie because the women</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:arial;">who<br />pay to see him dress up like a Black grandmommas would not support a film</span> <span style="font-family:arial;"><br />where he<span style="font-style: italic;"> talks about why he feels most comfortable </span>dressing up like a<br />Black</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:arial;">Grandmomma.</span><span style="font-family:arial;">   </span><span style="font-family:arial;">I then decided, after looking at the Sandra Rose<br />site and reading the comments</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:arial;">that I needed to have a conversation<br />with Moya, because this represented</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:arial;">a great teaching moment.</p>
<p>Tyler Perry&#8217;s movies make Black women and White people feel comfortable,<br />oh, don&#8217;t trip, we aren&#8217;t the only ones in the movie theater. If he makes a movie<br />about why he feels most comfortable with in dress, this would make many<br />Black women and White folks incredibly uncomfortable.</p>
<p>Below is the interview with Moya, who runs <a href="http://quirkyblackgirls.ning.com/">Quirky Black Girls</a><br />and is a fellow Women Studies colleague and an incredible gender<br />theorist.<br /></span><span style="font-family:arial;"><br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Renina Jarmon</span>: Why is it acceptable for a Black school to heavily<br />regulate the gendered</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:arial;">nature of clothing?</span>
<div  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Moya Bailey</span>: I don&#8217;t think its acceptable though I do believe in a dress code<br />(sometimes).   I think for k-12 and I could even say in college, a dress code<br />that&#8217;s designed  to counteract the hypersexualization of youth and to limit the<br />expression of  certain exclusionary class markers makes a lot of sense to me.<br />Dress codes  don&#8217;t have to be gender specific and students could be able to<br />wear a range  of clothing across genders regardless of their perceived sex.<br />Unfortunately, this  Morehouse dress code is being used to reinforce a very<br />classed and heteronormative idea of what a black man should look like.</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">RJ</span> <img src='http://newmodelminority.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> oes this have to do with the origins of the school as a place rooted<br />educating and grooming Black civil society?</p>
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<div  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">MB</span>: I definitely think this policy is connected to some old school politics of<br />respectability. Black people have historically tried to model the norms<br />of dominate culture, hoping that this mimicry would afford equal treatment<br />as opposed to subjugation.  &#8220;Good&#8221; black men don&#8217;t wear high heels or<br />sagging pants.  There&#8217;s been a lot of talk about how heels or sagging<br />pants won&#8217;t fly in corporate America, as if to say the ultimate goal for<br />Morehouse men is to become black versions of the CEO&#8217;s and capitalists<br />that are destroying communities of color with unliveable wages, gentrification,<br />environmental racism, and hazardous working conditions.  That said, a lot<br />of work has been done to ensure that folks can wear what they want to<br />wear in corporate America. Non-discrimination policies, while not<br />indicative of the work climate necessarily, provide employees rights<br />to dress as they see fit and if employers have a problem, provide legal<br />means through which employees can act.</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">RJ</span>:Are the people on <a href="http://sandrarose.com/2009/10/19/morehouse-under-fire-for-asking-black-men-to-be-men/">Sandrarose.com</a> aware that they sound like white<br />folks who didn&#8217;t want their children to attend integrated schools in the<br />1950&#8242;s? [Sandra Rose's statement"A man can?t lead other men wearing a dress",<br />sounds like some of the birthers, denying the presidents right to BE the<br />president.]<br /><cite style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);"></cite><br />
<blockquote><cite style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">&#8220;buttercup24 Says: </cite>
<p style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">I?m glad they are taking a stand. I?ve said numerous times I don?t have a problem with other people?s lifestyles but some people take it too far. If you are a gay man keyword is MAN. Act like one and the same thing with women. The saggy pants thing too. Save that for the knuckleheads on the street who aren?t going anywhere.&#8221;</p>
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<blockquote style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);"><cite>Dhoward1913 Says: </cite>     
<p>They should withdraw!!!! Why the hell would you go to Morehouse with that tomfoolery? These folks are out of control. Gay is one thing, but dressing like a woman?..and to the point that the school has to give guidelines. Damn, if you going to Morehouse you obviously want to get a degree and work in the public sector. You can?t dress like that in the public sector. Only hairsylist can do that.</p>
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<div  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">MB</span>: &#8220;A man can&#8217;t lead another man wearing a dress.&#8221; this quote is so deep and so<br />problematic to me. I&#8217;ll break it down.<br />1. What constitutes appropriate dress for men and women is always shifting.<br />What&#8217;s masculine one day can be feminine the next. Don&#8217;t folks know the<br />history of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-heeled_footwear#History" target="_blank">high heels</a>?<br />2. Read <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=hks9TucnmmwC&amp;dq=bailey%27s+cafe&amp;source=gbs_navlinks_s" target="_blank">Bailey&#8217;s Cafe</a> by Gloria Naylor. Tell me then if a man can&#8217;t lead<br />another man wearing a dress.<br />3. There&#8217;s an assumption that for a man to be taking seriously he needs<br />to be marked as such.  There&#8217;s something silly about a man in women&#8217;s<br />clothing. Why? Is it because men don&#8217;t take women seriously? If we<br />change the phrase to &#8221; A woman can&#8217;t lead another woman wearing pants,&#8221;<br />the statement very obviously breaks down.</p>
<p><b style="color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">What is it about masculinity that is so fragile that it becomes<br />questionable when cloaked in a dress?</b></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">RJ</span>: Why do we assume that just because Black men weren&#8217;t visibly gay<br />on Morehouse&#8217;s campus that they, haven&#8217;t been there historically?</div>
<div  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">MB</span>: Girl, I don&#8217;t know! And this is the thing about all black institutions, the<br />church, school, family, community, etc.  There is an understanding that<br />there are queer black folks in these spaces but traditionally folks have<br />tried to argue via politics of respectability,  &#8220;Hide yourself.&#8221;  Black queer<br />people can be <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayard_Rustin" target="_blank">present just not visibly</a> so or at least not so visible as to<br />call attention to themselves. We have this false notion that hiding queerness<br />will some how make us more respectable more deserving of being<br />treated like human beings if we don&#8217;t deviate from the norms that mainstream<br />(read: white) society created for us.</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">RJ</span>: Is the subtext in the conversation that some hetero sexual black women</span><br /><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">attend Spelman with the intent of finding a husband and a visible Black</span><br /><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">gay male population stifles this possibility?</span></p>
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<div  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">MB</span>:Maybe but I don&#8217;t think this is about heterosexual black women as much<br />as it is about making the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosociality" target="_blank">homosocial</a> nature of  a school like Morehouse<br />not be read as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homoeroticism" target="_blank">homoerotic</a>. What I mean is that Morehouse as a school<br />that wishes to claim a majority heterosexual student body,  has anxiety<br />around the visible presence of gay students. What will people think if they<br />see black men rocking the latest jimmy cho&#8217;s or sporting saggin&#8217; pants<br />etc. What is so interesting is that the dress code slices both ways.<br />They want to rid themselves of a working class hypermasculinity that is<br />expressed through baggy clothing as well as a feminine (read: queer)<br />aesthetic that also troubles a more conventional mainstream black<br />middle class masculinity.  It seems much more prudent to begin to<br />have <a href="http://michaeljbrewer.blogspot.com/2009/10/on-appropriate-attire-policy-at.html" target="_blank">conversations about black masculinity</a> and all that could be<br />rather than create a reactionary policy that brings attention to<br />the <a href="http://www.theroot.com/views/morehouse-s-crossroads-has-nothing-do-ghetto-gear-or-cross-dressing" target="_blank">conservative and no-liberatory vision of the school</a>.</div>
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<div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">RJ</span>:What are Black people scared of?</span></div>
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<div  style="font-family:arial;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">MB</span>: I think black people are afraid of their own queer desires. It&#8217;s so<br />interesting that homosexuality is so threatening in our communities<br />that we&#8217;d rather institute draconian policies that limit all that we are or<br />who we could be out of fear. Homosexaulity and heterosexaulity are<br />recent concepts that don&#8217;t effectively convey the diversity of human<br />sexuality, gender or biological sex. We hold tight to the notion that two<br />sexes, produce two genders which lead to two orientations but history<br />and our current world refute this at every turn. but we hold on. We hold<br />to these notions that ultimately imprison us and do nothing to transform<br />the world into what it could be.  It&#8217;s our desire to hold onto values, that<br />were never ours by the way, that keep us locked in a push/pull that is<br />not transformational or edifying.<br /><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"><br />RJ</span>: Any other thoughts?</span></p>
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<p> <span style="font-family:arial;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">MB</span>: I think Morehouse has a lot more to be concerned about than the<br />5 gay students who may or may not be wearing heels. How about<br />the number of sexual assaults that involve Morehouse students<br />and women in the Atlanta University Center? I can tell you it&#8217;s way<br />more than five. How about the virulent homophobia and sexism  that<br />goes unquestioned in the student body and in the administration?  </span>    <span style="font-family:arial;"></p>
<p>As a feminist, I also want to call high heels into question as not<br />necessarily being indicative of a liberatory politic. Heels hurt your feet<br />and can even destroy them over a long period of time. I think it&#8217;s interesting<br />that this ultra feminine footwear can be reclaimed  as transgressive when<br />in some ways I think it can be the epitome of a hegemonic hetero-patriarchal state.</p>
<p>For more reading:<br /><a href="http://political-philosophy.suite101.com/article.cfm/what_is_the_difference_between_sex_and_gender">The difference between gender and sex</a><br />Elizabeth Gates&#8217;s article in The Daily Beast: <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-20/morehouse-colleges-gay-travesty/">Morehouse College&#8217;s Gay Tragedy</a><br />Article in the Paper Tiger, Morehouses newspaper:<a href="http://www.themaroontiger.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=181%3Agerren-gaynor&amp;Itemid=6"> Is Gay the Way?</a><br />Latoya Peterson article at Racialicious: <a href="http://www.racialicious.com/2008/06/12/la-times-explores-being-gay-at-morehouse/">LA Times Explores Being Gay at Morehouse</a><br />Jason Harrell on Keith Boykin.com:<a href="http://www.keithboykin.com/arch/2004/12/09/black_and_gay_a_3"> Black and Gay at Morehouse</a></p>
<p><span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">Interesting?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">What does it mean that this is what Morehouse chooses to focus</span> <span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">on?</span> <span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"></p>
<p>Why Black folks sound like white 1950&#8242;s or 2009 birther racist?</p>
<p>Did you know that Black MBA students can&#8217;t wear locks or cornrows at Hampton?<br />This is material because they have a 5 year undergrad/MBA program.</p>
<p>What are we scared of?</p>
<p>Thoughts?<br /></span></span></p>


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